my favorite springer knowledge

[krymis]

so most of us know Gary produced a few instructional CDs. On one of them he describes how to build an old school springer with had tools. Dan proved that it can be done as described. Once i saw that post i started grabbing every bit of knowledge i could about building frontends. The one frontend that just tripped my trigger was Sugarbears springer. I studied build pictures and pieced together what i thought was a good knowledge base of the frontend. I talked to ken, gary, irish rich, johnnyB, and even Sugarbear himself. so somethings i have found:
1. offset trees (believed to be 1 forward)
2. trees are 1.5" thick
3. spring perch is 1" thick
4.
ran out of time i will keep adding and post pictures.

[curt]

i went with gary's plans think it came out well good luck post some pics im sure ill build another would love to see another build

[rudog]

Ditto! I'ld like to see what you came up with also.

[krymis]

will be posting a unique take on a sugarbear springer. i just bought one for a damn good price. i will be posting pics and measurements. with htis info and the cd you should be able to build one of your own. i will post once it comes in.

[krymis]

sugar bear springer will be here tomorrow at 11:00am. Me and gary got a phone call to do and then i will post pics of the frontend. From there i will post the ins and outs and you ask and ask away on questions. hey don't forget i got a denvers, century/ness, harman, finch, columbus, and smith bros springers too. If you need any questions answered.

[railroad bob]

Wow, what a collection, thanks for offering the info.

[curt]

sugar bear springer will be here tomorrow at 11:00am. Me and gary got a phone call to do and then i will post pics of the frontend. From there i will post the ins and outs and you ask and ask away on questions. hey don't forget i got a denvers, century/ness, harman, finch, columbus, and smith bros springers too. If you need any questions answered.

im jealous

[krymis]

im jealous

don't be you didn't have to explain the fact that you wanted to buy something just to blueprint it and hang it on the wall to your wife. She looked over the parts wall and went through and counted how much money i wasted on blueprinting shit. She was not pleased. I have had just about every name brand springer, girder,leafer, and spirder in my possession at one time or another. I have lists of blueprints for many of the big name frame builders too. I have traveled to other side of the country to measure bikes like a WCC el diablo. So when you are envious think that you get to bury a bone with your old lady and just get to listen to yelling.

[rudog]

So...Did SugarBear give you his blessings in printing and sharing his design. Did he tell you his secrets? Will you share???

What I'm more interested in than geometry, is the story about how he came up with it. Was it a design, a progression, or an accident?

[gww25]

I don't think that Sugar Bear has an 'secrets' as most springer builders pretty much already know any tricks or tweaks that have ever been invented. Sugar Bear is just more flamboyant in his salesmanship and has had more opportunities to build some extremely radical front ends. He has cultivated a niche following but a lot of bike builders won't use his front ends on anything. Everybody has their preferences. That's why there are so many different types and styles of Choppers on the road today.
We've talked about what a lot of people call 'Sugar Bear' rockers on the CD's and on the old board but those long curved scimitars were being used on springers long before Al made them his signature.

[curt]

im jealous

don't be you didn't have to explain the fact that you wanted to buy something just to blueprint it and hang it on the wall to your wife. She looked over the parts wall and went through and counted how much money i wasted on blueprinting shit. She was not pleased. I have had just about every name brand springer, girder,leafer, and spirder in my possession at one time or another. I have lists of blueprints for many of the big name frame builders too. I have traveled to other side of the country to measure bikes like a WCC el diablo. So when you are envious think that you get to bury a bone with your old lady and just get to listen to yelling.

they never understand but have no problem buying 300 dollar purses and shoes that are worthless when theyre done with em at least our toys are worth somethin when were done playing with em still lookin foreward to your build